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Building-Structure Inventory Form

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Unless indicated below, this is a transcript of the original Society for the Preservation of Long Island Antiquities/Town of Brookhaven survey form. Since most of the surveys were conducted in the late 1970’s and early 1980’s, much of the information reflects that time period.

Corrections to obvious typographical and spelling errors have been made. Corrections to factual errors in the original surveys, and updates or comments on the information are either enclosed in [square brackets], or are clearly indicated as updated material from the context of the comments.

Sites which have a suffix of “S” are supplemental sites not included in the original surveys.

Building-Structure Inventory Form

Rose-Lyons house

 If checked, this is a Supplemental Form, not in the original surveys.

Br29B

03-10-1975

01-01-1970

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Submitter

Submitter Name:
Mrs. Paul W. Bigelow
Submitter Address:
7 Thornhedge Road

Bellport, NY 11713
Bellport-Brookhaven Historical Society

Identification

Rose-Lyons house
Suffolk
Brookhaven
Hamlet of Brookhaven

 If checked, this site is within the Fire Place (Brookhaven Hamlet) Historic District

Ownership

4a-Public Site
4b-Private Site
Mrs. Elizabeth Lyons
Station Rd., Bellport

Use

private home
same

Accessibility

7a-Visible From Road
7b-Interior Accessible

Building Materials

8a-Clapboard
8b-Stone
8c-Brick
8d-Board & Batten
8e-Cobblestone
8f-Shingles
8g-Stucco

Structural System

9a-Wood Frame Interlocking Joints
9b-Wood Frame Light Members
9c-Masonry
9d-Metal
9e-Other

Condition

10a-Excellent
10b-Good
10c-Fair
10d-Deteriorated

Integrity

11a-Original Site
11b-Moved
Small wing had been a store on Bay Road; added before 1900

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Threats

14a-None Known
14b-Zoning
14c-Roads
14d-Developers
14e-Deterioration

Related Outbuildings and Property

15a-Barn
15b-Carriage House
15c-Garage
15d-Privy
15e-Shed
15f-Greenhouse
15g-Shop
15h-Gardens
15i-Landscape Features

Surroundings of the Building

16a-Open Land
16b-Woodland
16c-Scattered Bldgs
16d-Densely Built-up
16e-Commercial
16f-Industrial
16g-Residential

Interrelationship of Building and Surroundings

Other Notable Features of Building and Site

small wing was once a store

Significance

before 1818, by John rose, born 1768

Same carpenter who had built Miller house, few years earlier.

Historic and Architectural Importance

Senator John Rose was son of Revolutionary War hero [copy illegible ...] who is buried in rear of this property. He married dau. of [copy illegible ...] they had 5 sons.

Sources

On Chase 1858 map as [copy illegible] C. G. Hawkins. Picture in Bellport-Brookhaven book in 1968 by B. B. Historical Society. ** [Early Photographs of the Hamlet of Brookhaven collected by George Perley Morse 1945-1959." Repository: Post-Morrow Foundation, RG1 Series 10.]

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** [George Perley Morse indicates -- "Located on north side of Beaver Dam Road near South Country Road is all original and a fine example of well-to-do Long Island home. It has been in the Rose family nearly all the time. Built by John Rose (born 1768) son of Lieutenant (Revolutionary War) Thomas Rose. He married a daughter of David (Priest) Rose (no relative) and became Town Trustee, Town Supervisor and a New York State Senator. He had five sons and the fifth son inherited the home and died in 1914 at the age of 98 years. Mulford Rose, the fifth son had four children. His daughters Harriet and Cornalia lived in the home and did not marry. (see photos) The fourth child Elizabeth [[error]] married and her first or second cousins through marriages inherited the old home, Miss Clara Steckel and Mrs. Alma Sleter. "George Miller once told the writer that this home was built by the same carpenter that built the Nathaniel Miller home a few years earlier.

" It is said that the small part of the John Rose house was once a small store, located on Bay Road."]

[According to Bigelow, the home was built before 1818 for Senator John Rose. She indicates that the smaller wing on the right was once used as a store. She also indicates that the house was built by the same builder who built the Nathaniel Miller (see) house on Fire Place Neck Rd. It was known to be occupied by members of the Rose family in the late 19th/early 20th century.

The home on the 1858 map of Fire Place (see) is labeled "C. G. Hawkins" (see Charles Greenville Hawkins.) The home on the1873 map of Fire Place is labeled "J. L. Ireland" (see John Lawrence Ireland). The 1888 map of the Hamlet has it labeled J. B. Ireland (see John Busteed Ireland). The local tradition has the home being occupied by the Rose family from the early 19th until the early 20th century.

Was C. G. Hawkins living there in the 1850's? He was a seaman, not of great wealth. Could the home have been more modest in the 1850's when the Hawkins family resided there -- perhaps just the wing to the right? This wing appears to be of cape design, and in a 19th century picture of the house a single dormer appears on this section, suggestive of a second floor bedroom. On the other hand, John Rose by 1818 was a relatively wealthy and prominent citizen of the Town and Hamlet -- one would not have expected him to build just a modest cape cod.

I believe the 1858 map is likely mislabeled, and that C. G. Hawkins did not live there in 1858, but probably further east on Beaverdam Rd.

J. L. Ireland was a wealthy landowner who acquired much of the Rose family holdings in Brookhaven Hamlet. Apparently this includes ownership of the Rose house. He dies in 1879, and the property passes to his son, J. B. Ireland. Again, I think the tradition is likely correct -- the Rose family occupied the house until into the 20th century, but that the family was forced to sell the property to the Ireland's as their finances deteriorated. It was not uncommon for purchasers of property to guarantee occupancy of homes until the death of the family members.]